Irrationalism comes in all Shapes and Sizes
Last night I engaged in two different discussions online. One was with a prolifer from twitter. The other was with an Objectivist from http://www.objectivismonline.net/
The common denominator among them was a total willingness to discuss a topic, and form opinions and judgments, when they had no real grasp of the subject. In both cases I offered article for education. In both cases I was turned down. How is the same exact response possible from a mystical prolifer and a supposed arch-advocate of reason?
The first conversation is the prolifer from twitter:
Roseblue Suzanne Fortin
ESCR has yet to be used in one single medical treatment. Non-embryonic stem cells have contributed to dozens. #prolife
WeDontNeedGod James Hughes
@Roseblue If i were to provide you with links to FOUR examples of the use of ESCR in therapy will you admit that you are wrong? #prolife
@Roseblue Suzanne Fortin
@wedontneedgod That have been proven? Doubt it. Nevertheless, Non-embryonic stem cells have proven to be more useful. #prolife
WeDontNeedGod James Hughes
@Roseblue That wasnt my question. The question was: Would you admit that you are wrong?
Roseblue Suzanne Fortin
@wedontneedgod No because I’d have to review all the evidence first, and I wouldn’t trust your presentation of it.#prolife
Even with evidence she admitted that she would not concede to being proven wrong.
Next is the Objectivist. We were discussing Relationships and attraction.
(02:17:47) Dwayne: I know that you dont need stuff to get the sort of woman I want, and that it is not any “erroneous presumption”. Maybe YOU need that sort of thing to get the ones you want, but count me out.
(02:18:10) WeDontNeedGod: “you dont need stuff”
(02:18:24) WeDontNeedGod: wow
(02:18:30) RandyG: Lefty McCoy and the Erronious Presumptions.
(02:18:31) Dwayne: It is obvious that I dont need to…I already know what I need to get the woman I want.
(02:18:46) Dwayne: * need THAT stuff rather
(02:18:51) ASUK[Away]: Ditto Dwayne.
(02:19:01) WeDontNeedGod: what stuff?
(02:19:16) Dwayne: The stuff you are talking about.
(02:19:38) ASUK[Away]: This bullshit you think you need to pick up women
(02:19:38) WeDontNeedGod: my point exactly
(02:19:41) WeDontNeedGod: you dont even know what it is that im talking about
(02:19:42) Dwayne: Anyway, I dont even see the point in arguing about this.
(02:20:02) Dwayne: Maybe I dont. Maybe it doesnt matter.
(02:20:09) ASUK[Away]: Anyways…..
(02:20:15) WeDontNeedGod: like talking to a creationist
(02:20:27) WeDontNeedGod: where are the transition fossils, derp derp
(02:20:36) Dwayne rolls eyes.
(02:20:42) Dwayne: Go insult someone else.
(02:20:48) Dwayne: Jerk.
Amazing. Im the jerk for pointing out that HE doesnt have any idea what he is talking about.
Abortion
National Day of Prayer Deemed Unconstitutional
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002706-503544.html
“Yesterday, a U.S. District Judge in Wisconsin ruled that the annual National Day of Prayer is unconstitutional.”
BUT
“In a Tweet, the White House said that regardless of the ruling, the president still “intends to recognize a National Day of Prayer.” The decision does not ban the president from issuing a proclamation, the White House said.”
How is it possible that the president thinks he can knowingly do something that has been deemed by a Federal Judge to be unconstitutional. Is this an example of religion being privileged in America?
Healthcare bill funds ignorant religious sex education.
The Healthcare Reform bill which was passed by congress and signed into Law by President Obama contains $250 million earmarked for “Abstinence only” sex education.
This practice should be called “Ignorance-only,” not only has it been shown not to stop teens from having sex, it also causes them to take more risks with their health.
There is no justification for abstinence only sex education. It is a religious dogma, not science. To the extent that it hampers and destroys human live it is an evil ideology, which has no place in our schools.
“A congressionally mandated study in 2007 found that none of four abstinence programs showed a significant positive effect on sexual behavior among youth. A January 2009 study in Pediatrics found that religious teens who take virginity pledges are less likely to use condoms or birth control when they become sexually active, and just as likely to have sex before marriage as their peers who didn’t take pledges.”
Evangelical Preacher Kills wife, rapes children
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/04/09/preacher-convicted-killing-wife-freezing-body/?test=latestnews
In addition to the murder of his wife “the jury in Mobile also found 39-year-old Anthony Hopkins guilty of rape, sodomy, incest and sexual abuse of a child between the ages of 12 and 16.”
I can just see this sicko going out preaching against the evils of atheism and homosexuality, then going home that night and raping on of his preteen relatives in the house where his murder wife was in the freezer.
This once again goes to show that Christianity fails to provide its followers with a stable moral foundation.
Judge Rules Atheists Rights Were Violated
http://www.redding.com/news/2010/apr/08/judge-atheists-rights-violated/
“State parole officers violated a Redding atheist’s rights when they imprisoned him for refusing to participate in a religious drug treatment program, a federal judge has ruled.”
One more win in the effort to keep religionist’s from using the government to force their beliefs on people!
Christian terrorist cell in the US
Christian Terrorist Cell Busted in US
Nine members of the Christian terrorist cell where apprehended last week. The plotted to kill a law enforcement official, and then use IED’s at the funeral.
The most interesting thing here is the bias that the mainstream media has shown. If these men where Muslim, it would be called a Muslim terrorist organization, but since this is the US and they are Christian, they are a just a militia, and no special attention is being given to their religion.
Christian Anti-Abortion Zealot Given Life in Prison for Murder
As long as Christians promote faith, they will practice force; When one gives up the mind, the capacity for persuasion goes as well. Without reason all that is left to solve disputes is the barrel of a gun.
This is not an anomaly, it is not an aberration. This is what happens when Christians have integrity.
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