The Nature of Consciousness Vs. Religious concepts
The Nature of Consciousness vs. Religious concepts.
A certain class of beings is claimed to exist by modern religion. These entities are described as being “purely spiritual.” This means that they are a type of consciousness, a mind, without a body. There are several creatures that have been described this way, among them God, the Devil, Angels, Demons, and even the human mind is explained by religion to exist independently of the brain in the form of the “immortal soul.” Indeed, this class of entities make up the foundations of religious thought. Without them the claims of religion in regards to human existence are baseless. But, consciousness is a specific attribute of individuals with certain, known properties. I will show that the nature of consciousness invalidates any claim to the existence of beings of “pure spirit”
“Purely spiritual,” beings are claimed to be minds without a body, to include the absence of a brain. Charnock writes “If we grant that God is, we must necessarily grant that he cannot be corporeal, because a body is of an imperfect nature. It will appear incredible to any that acknowledge God the first Being and Creator of all things, that he should be a massy, heavy body, and have eyes and ears, feet and hands, as we have (1).” But, can the mind exist without the brain? The facts of the relationship between the mind and the brain are well known and easily demonstrable. What is the effect on the mind if one cuts off the blood supply to the brain, as opposed to if one cuts it off to an arm? In the case of the arm, one does not necessarily lose consciousness, but if the blood supply is cut off to the brain, a loss of consciousness is imminent. This fact demonstrates that the mind is inextricably tied, in fact derived from the brain. What is the effect on the mind if one introduces alcohol or drugs into the brains blood supply? The state of the mind is altered by these purely material elements. What is the effect on consciousness if the brain experiences blunt force trauma? If the arm or leg is destroyed, consciousness remains. Even the heart can be transplanted and yet the person’s consciousness remains. When the brain is damaged, however, consciousness is altered, or goes out of existence all together temporarily, in the case of a “knock-out” or permanently, in the case of death. The idea of a consciousness separated from the brain contradicts observable fact that the mind is dependent on the brain. The result is that any theories that suggest a “purely spiritual” being are ultimately refuted by such facts.
The second point to be made concerning an alleged consciousness with no body is the lack of sensory organs. Imagine a man born with no senses, no touch, no hearing, no sight, no taste and no smell. Would he have a thought? If so, where would it come from? The fact is that he wouldn’t be capable of thought, because to be conscious means to be conscious of something, and the only way to gather material for the mind to process is through the senses. Without them, our minds would be blank. We would possess the means to think, but there would literally be nothing to think about, no way to be conscious of anything at all. Such would be the state of a “purely spiritual” being such as God, angels, demons, or a soul detached from the body. For from being omnipotent, as God is often described, it would not have the ability to know anything at all. Again, the idea of a “purely spiritual” consciousness is incompatible with the facts of reality. A “consciousness” conscious of nothing is a contradiction in terms; if it is conscious of nothing, it cannot be described as conscious. It would be “not conscious.”
In connection with consciousness relying on the senses for it material, there is also the issue of the existential material for consciousness. In addition to having to possess the proper equipment to be conscious, something must also exist to be conscious of. It is claimed by religion that a being of “pure consciousness,” God, created everything: all matter. If such a being existed before matter existed, it stands to reason that there would have been nothing for it to be conscious of, and as discussed in the previous paragraph a consciousness with nothing to be conscious of is a contradiction in terms.
These are three ways in which it can be demonstrated that any “purely spiritual” beings cannot exist. Consciousness depends on the brain to exist; therefore all conscious being must have physical bodies. Consciousness depends on the sensory organs to provide it with the material necessary for its functioning, therefore a being without sensory organs cannot logically be described as conscious and any hypothetical being described as such cannot be said to exist. Further the idea that a being of pure spirit created all matter is impossible, because to be described as conscious, something would have to exist for it to be conscious of in the first place, nullifying the idea that said being created everything which exists. The hypothesis that there exists any beings of “pure consciousness,” which means consciousness separate from matter, contradict known facts of the nature of consciousness, and is therefore invalided by those facts.
(1) Charnock, Stephen and Symington, William. Discourses upon the existence and attributes of God. New York : Robert Carter. 1853

Excellent article. Religious apologists always argue for a “non-material reality” or a “transcendent reality” or a “super-natural reality”, etc.. But what do they ever mean by these terms? They can never tell us and they always evade. They will instead argue that we are using a “materialist logic” or a “secularist reason” and as such we are avoiding the “reality of the transcendent realm”. You have shown why all of this is pure nonsense.
http://www.bibleprobe.com/nde.htm
The unverifiable testimony of people who have been under the influence of 1) brain trauma 2) Physical trauma, including blood loss and/or 3) the endorphins, adrenaline and other biochemicals associate with a traumatic experience, not to mention any chemicals that have possibly been administered by medical professionals, certainly does not constitute any sort of proof of the existence of a consciousness that can exist independent of matter. From a reality based, scientific view, the hypothesis that these occurrences are the result of the ability for consciousness to exist independent of matter is invalid, because it contradicts known facts of the nature of consciousness. An alternate explanation is not only possible, but required.
I have deleted all the comments which added nothing to the conversation.
I have realized that my original thesis is the answer.
NDE’s aren’t evidence for anything, as they are still being explained.
The facts of NDE’s are that some people claim to experience certain events while they are dead.
One (usually religiously motivated)hypothesis as to the cause of these experiences is that the mind is existing independently of the body.
This hypothesis fails in light of the fact that of the nature of consciousness, as described in my thesis.
Next hypothesis please.
(The super-naturalist approach is to claim that NDE’s are proof of mind-body independence, which is begging the question. The claim assumes that the mind can exist independently of the body to explain the occurrence of NDE’s, and the states that NDE’s are proof of mind-body independence. But this is not the main thrust of my argument.)
That’s fine. It was fun while it lasted. I just thought that NDEs would be the closest thing with a possible scientific component that might interest you, given that anything more overtly spiritual would be a definite no-no. Hey, I tried.
While I enjoy reading your blog, I’m going to give you a break and lay off making any further comments. It’s clear that we’re miles apart and that neither of us is likely to change our beliefs. Thanks for the challenging thoughts though. Take care.
monk
Excellent article. Recent report says that NDE is because rise of carbon-di-xide levels in blood.
Hello, James. Nice post.
My first question is this. Take this argument:
(1) All the minds we’ve observed have been on Earth.
(2) God is a mind that is not on Earth.
(3) Therefore, God does not exist.
I think we would both agree that that’s an absurd argument. So, how are you going to provide a principle that objectively differentiates the argument of (1)-(3) from the arguments in your post?
Secondly, you list three considerations that weigh against dualism, and conclude that dualism is false. I’m not sure that that follows. If I can list three considerations that weigh in favor of dualism, do I get to declare dualism true? Why don’t you have to consider the arguments in favor of dualism and weigh them against the arguments against dualism before arriving at a verdict?
Thanks for considering my points.